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. >> let me tell you exactly what obama care did. [ speaking simultaneously ] >> reporter: then there was this. >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop this subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things. i like pbs. i love big bird. actually like you, too. but i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for it. ♪ i love to move to the music >> reporter: the mere mention of cutting funds to big bird sent the social media world into high gear. pictures like this, with big bird on the ropes. president obama on the campaign trail. >> thank goodness somebody is finally getting tough on big bird. >> reporter: the pentagon, which has been a close ally of the eight foot tall bird, was asked about it at the briefing. >> i'm not going to get into politics here. i wouldn't want to ruffle any feathers, so to speak. >> reporter: but big bird has some conservatives a little plucked. they argue that it's time to stop funding public broadcast programs like sesame street, npr and the pbs news hour. brian darling is with the conservative heritage foundation. >> i
. >> let me tell you exactly what obama care did. [ speaking simultaneously ] >> reporter: then there was this. >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop this subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things. i like pbs. i love big bird. actually like you, too. but i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for it. ♪ i love to move to the music >> reporter: the mere mention of cutting funds to big bird sent the social media world into...
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obama care son my list, i apologize, mr. president. i use that term with all respect. >> i like it. >> okay, good. so i will get rid of that i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things to pbs i like big bird and i like you too. i'm not going to stop borrowing money from china to pay for it. >> i thought lehrer was big bird. first let's go with the president looking down while romney is speaking. >> i'm comparing this to 2008. this wasn't a good thing. typically when he looks down he is trying show his disagreement. i don't agree what you are saying. tight jaw, clinched lip. there is also a level of intimidation i think in parts of the clip where he doesn't feel good about what's going on with romney. he feels insecure with romney. >> bill: shouldn't he be looking at romney isn't that much better body language. >> much better. more powerful to look at him. >> bill: looking away showing weakness. >> you don't deserve my eye contact therefore i'm not going to give it to you. >> bill: condescending.
obama care son my list, i apologize, mr. president. i use that term with all respect. >> i like it. >> okay, good. so i will get rid of that i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things to pbs i like big bird and i like you too. i'm not going to stop borrowing money from china to pay for it. >> i thought lehrer was big bird. first let's go with the president looking down while romney is speaking. >> i'm comparing this to 2008. this...
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vouchers or $761 billion cut to pay for obama care? i mean, the -- i would much rather -- >> not a cut in benefits, let's be clear. >> it's really important, though, to understand how would vouchers not empower you to have more control of your health care? i don't think medicare is going to be the deciding factor. i think it's going to be much, much more than that. >> after the debate, our analyst, cnn analyst david gergen had this to say. we have a horse race and we certainly do, no question about it in the state of florida. take a look at this polling with me. latest polling from the "wall street journal" shows a virtual dead heat. you see it there, obama 47% and romney 46%. you know the state better than most. what do you think romney has to do to tip it in his favor in. >> well, here's what he better not do. ten days ago he was behind. he came from behind and he is in a dead heat, as you know right now. if he plays prevent defense and i know his consultants are going to want him to be very, very careful and not make a mistake. that
vouchers or $761 billion cut to pay for obama care? i mean, the -- i would much rather -- >> not a cut in benefits, let's be clear. >> it's really important, though, to understand how would vouchers not empower you to have more control of your health care? i don't think medicare is going to be the deciding factor. i think it's going to be much, much more than that. >> after the debate, our analyst, cnn analyst david gergen had this to say. we have a horse race and we certainly...
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that explanation was quickly picked up by president obama at a rally in northern virginia friday. >> governor romney was fact-checked by his own campaign. >> reporter: to counter opponents' effort as an out of touch executive, romney shifted to tell more of his own life story, including his friendship with a 14-year-old diagnosed with leukemia. >> there's a saying, clear eyes, full heart, can't lose. david couldn't lose. i love that young man. >> justin, this is actually ann romney calling. >> reporter: today ann visited phone banks in florida. >> i've been getting a lot of feedback about the debate? >> reporter: and looking to replicate his performance in the first debate, mitt romney is not wasting any time preparing for the second, squaring off against his sparring partner, his running mate paul ryan is preparing for this week's vice presidential debate and he is back home in wisconsin. >> peter alexander on the trail tonight in florida. thanks. let's bring in andrea mitchell now and she joins us from washington. andrea, governor romney had been held considered lukewarm in terms o
that explanation was quickly picked up by president obama at a rally in northern virginia friday. >> governor romney was fact-checked by his own campaign. >> reporter: to counter opponents' effort as an out of touch executive, romney shifted to tell more of his own life story, including his friendship with a 14-year-old diagnosed with leukemia. >> there's a saying, clear eyes, full heart, can't lose. david couldn't lose. i love that young man. >> justin, this is actually...
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grow government anyway you're just going to get a slight decrease in spending from a romney presidency obama you both should be happy liberals or conservatives should all be very happy with the growth of government would be because it because anybody who cares about liberty or freedom or free markets they're screwed anybody who is a working poor but i want to go wherever your freedom riders are you know they're going to go about us remember it is terrible you know it's about us first we've got to have liberty for the koch brothers i get it you know we've got to deregulate their oil plants and then they're and they're paid. mills and things like them poison more people i can guarantee you whatever i have got in with you know it's not i know i know understand would be regulations are as you can all it's not surprising at all that romney is running away from the positions he took in the republican primary because the republican party has been completely co-opted by by wall street by the billionaires part of the part of the democratic party have to i'm not going to apologize for them too but you
grow government anyway you're just going to get a slight decrease in spending from a romney presidency obama you both should be happy liberals or conservatives should all be very happy with the growth of government would be because it because anybody who cares about liberty or freedom or free markets they're screwed anybody who is a working poor but i want to go wherever your freedom riders are you know they're going to go about us remember it is terrible you know it's about us first we've got...
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he is getting cheers about remarks of repealing obama care. carl is on the job . campaign carl, we don't call him that for nothing. moving on now . and sticking with the economy. gas prices reaching an all-time high in one state. that plays in to the economy especially where people are seeing upards to five dollars a gallonon and a serve of deadly attacks. they are known as green on blue attackings. oliver north is embedded with our troops and he joins us live next. and a u.s. navy seal who made the ultimate sacrifice for our nation is honored. we'll show you the u.s. navy is choosing to remember his name . [ male announcer ] this is sheldo whose long day setting up the news starts with arthritis pain and a choice. take tylenol or take aleve, the #1 recommended pain reliever by orthopedic doctors. just two aleve can keep pain away all day. back to the news. now we need a little bit more... a little bit more vanilla? this is great! [ male announcer ] at humana, we believe there's never been a better time to share your passions... because the results... are you havi
he is getting cheers about remarks of repealing obama care. carl is on the job . campaign carl, we don't call him that for nothing. moving on now . and sticking with the economy. gas prices reaching an all-time high in one state. that plays in to the economy especially where people are seeing upards to five dollars a gallonon and a serve of deadly attacks. they are known as green on blue attackings. oliver north is embedded with our troops and he joins us live next. and a u.s. navy seal who...
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say obama's going to show up. he's going to be aggressive. he is probably likely to over -- you know, go overboard. >> here's the obama narrative, simply, sean. fiattack governor romney as his campaign has, he drives up his negative and that improves his vote share. what his handlers are saying, you missed opportunity after opportunity to position governor romney as being on the far right. have you to do it in the town hall -- [overlapping dialogue] >> this is where i dissent. this is where i dissent from everyone that this is automatically an obama event. if the romney people -- which they have not-- the romney campaign hasn't got know any better than it has been, which is terrible. romney was really good. but the question they need to push on the president is, he didn't make these charges in the last debate, face it face. if they go after that and his advertising and force him to do it and it was a lot of people who don't like those kinds of attacks, the president's going to have problems this. vice-presidential
say obama's going to show up. he's going to be aggressive. he is probably likely to over -- you know, go overboard. >> here's the obama narrative, simply, sean. fiattack governor romney as his campaign has, he drives up his negative and that improves his vote share. what his handlers are saying, you missed opportunity after opportunity to position governor romney as being on the far right. have you to do it in the town hall -- [overlapping dialogue] >> this is where i dissent. this...
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. >> if obama care is repealed, how would you replace it? >> actually, it's a lengthy description but number one, pre-existing conditions are covered under my plan. >> pre-existing conditions are covered under my plan. keeping them honest, that assurance is misleading and a short time later, a top campaign adviser had to clarify what his boss actually meant. under mr. romney's plan, he said, pre-existing conditions would only be covered for people who already have insurance to begin with, but are changing jobs and therefore, health insurance plans. that's not who most people think of when it comes to pre-existing conditions. ironically, the health care reform law mitt romney signed as governor and remains in effect today in massachusetts does mandate coverage for anyone with pre-existing conditions, whether they already have health insurance or not. a bit later in the program, we will talk about one of the few moments that mr. romney failed to strike a tone of moderation. it concerns a great big yellow bird. that makes it on our "ridiculist"
. >> if obama care is repealed, how would you replace it? >> actually, it's a lengthy description but number one, pre-existing conditions are covered under my plan. >> pre-existing conditions are covered under my plan. keeping them honest, that assurance is misleading and a short time later, a top campaign adviser had to clarify what his boss actually meant. under mr. romney's plan, he said, pre-existing conditions would only be covered for people who already have insurance to...
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you mentioned appealing president obama's health care reform law. that is something that will continue to be hotly debated. we have two more debates left. there is a lot of uncertainty about not only what obamas's second term will look like, but what a mitt romney first term will look like as he takes the white house in november. host: an e-mail sent from ohio. isn't the question of wages more important than jobs? the person making minimum wage is no better off and someone receiving welfare. to the point about wages, what do we find out there from the release of the report? guest: i do not know the exact details of the report in terms of wages going up or down. he makes a good point. wages are important. welfare is something that president obama and mitt romney have been trading barbs over as to whether the president is someone capable of turning this country into a place where people do not have to rely so much on government subsidies because they are out of work. i think that issue is very politically charged and we will see it debated in the comi
you mentioned appealing president obama's health care reform law. that is something that will continue to be hotly debated. we have two more debates left. there is a lot of uncertainty about not only what obamas's second term will look like, but what a mitt romney first term will look like as he takes the white house in november. host: an e-mail sent from ohio. isn't the question of wages more important than jobs? the person making minimum wage is no better off and someone receiving welfare. to...
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coat obama-care reduces future spending on medicare by reducing payments to insurance companies hotels and other providers. not to the people receiving medicare. this does not effect a single benefit to medicare recipients. mitt don't say the $716 billion lie again. it is a lie. the reality is you want to turn it into a voucher program because you never believed in medicare. your party has never believed in medicare. you talk about how democrats are going to hurt medicare? nonsense. i'm not done yet. you want to talk about how you love teachers? go ahead mitt. >> romney: i love great schools. massachusetts is ranked number one in 50 states. the key to great schools great teachers. i reject the idea that i don't believe in great teachers. >> cenk: except when you want to fire them. >> he said we need more firemen, more teachers, did he not get the message of wisconsin? the american people did. it's time to cut back on government. >> cenk: there you are on tape. which one is it, mitt? i want the american people to be very clear on this. which one is it? do you want to fire the teachers o
coat obama-care reduces future spending on medicare by reducing payments to insurance companies hotels and other providers. not to the people receiving medicare. this does not effect a single benefit to medicare recipients. mitt don't say the $716 billion lie again. it is a lie. the reality is you want to turn it into a voucher program because you never believed in medicare. your party has never believed in medicare. you talk about how democrats are going to hurt medicare? nonsense. i'm not...
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which is why it was that when america needed jobs to badly he was pushing for obama care. >> my opponent has been trying to do a two-step and reposition and -- got an extreme makeover. governor romney plans to let wall street run wild again but he's going to bring down the hammer on "sesame street." it makes perfect sense. gwen: the morning the president got good news on the jobs front as the unemployment rate dropped if 8 .1 to 7 .8%. news so good that some romney supportsers even suggested the numbers must be cooked. let's start with the debate. we'll walk you through some of the numbers you heard and some you didn't to explain where the election stands tonight. first number, that 7 .8%. this is thousand candidates responded. >> so it looks like employment is getting better. the truth is if the same share of people were participating on the work force today as on the day the president got elected, our unemployment rate would be around 11%. >> today's news should give us some encouragement. it shouldn't be an excuse for the other side to try to talk down the economy. just to try to scor
which is why it was that when america needed jobs to badly he was pushing for obama care. >> my opponent has been trying to do a two-step and reposition and -- got an extreme makeover. governor romney plans to let wall street run wild again but he's going to bring down the hammer on "sesame street." it makes perfect sense. gwen: the morning the president got good news on the jobs front as the unemployment rate dropped if 8 .1 to 7 .8%. news so good that some romney supportsers...
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that's what democrats like about obama. they couldn't care less he is half black. caller: i have two questions. i wonder if there is a two- tiered justice system in this country. thousands and thousands of dollars while on the terrorist watch list. muslims get prosecuted for the same thing. i have another question. guest: that is not my interest. a're in the middle of presidential election. i just wrote this book. that is outside what i'm interested in. caller: do you think mitt romney will roll back the surveillance state? they are building a computer center in utah that is going to be directed at us. do you think romney will roll back the surveillance state? guest: we are against a fascist state at home because we want to be strong abroad. host: russell in south carolina. caller: good morning. it is always a pleasure to talk to the people at c-span. my comment with ann and the republicans -- it is amazing how she can just ignore the civil-rights movement and the voter rights bill. the voting rights bill actually changed the seven democrats in south carolina, miss
that's what democrats like about obama. they couldn't care less he is half black. caller: i have two questions. i wonder if there is a two- tiered justice system in this country. thousands and thousands of dollars while on the terrorist watch list. muslims get prosecuted for the same thing. i have another question. guest: that is not my interest. a're in the middle of presidential election. i just wrote this book. that is outside what i'm interested in. caller: do you think mitt romney will...
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the obama campaign strategy. how can the campaigns do a better job, in your view? >> certainly the romney campaign is going back to its argument that top-end tax cuts will help business owners, specifically. but if you look at the engagement that's happening on president obama's campaign, it's very fascinating. it's been focused at the neighborhood level, probably at an unusually early part of the cycle, they started doing the field operations. they're also organizing online, through a digital dashboard. so that these constituents can organize themselves. and that's probably the most interesting thing about this election cycle. you're seeing a new generation of candidates from within the community starting to challenge the debate in the country. you're starting to see activists who are actually forcing changes that wouldn't otherwise happen. and it's that organization at the ground that's going to make the biggest difference. and frankly, candidates across the board would be intelligent to be engaging in that con
the obama campaign strategy. how can the campaigns do a better job, in your view? >> certainly the romney campaign is going back to its argument that top-end tax cuts will help business owners, specifically. but if you look at the engagement that's happening on president obama's campaign, it's very fascinating. it's been focused at the neighborhood level, probably at an unusually early part of the cycle, they started doing the field operations. they're also organizing online, through a...
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. >> should the obama campaign be careful not to assume that voters will write romney off as this out-of-touch rich guy? >> he is very, very practiced. this is what i have said for the past couple of weeks. he gets into the debate prep room. he practices and practices. and the answer come across sounding extremely sincere. and the fact is i think that he is perhaps one of the betterer debaters in the republican party today. but when it comes to the facts, when it comes to what he will ultimately do when he governs, come to massachusetts and ask us. he raised fees by a billion dollars. he raised fees on hunters. there is this baby thing going on right now. we've heard him going after big bird. in massachusetts, he made it more expensive to be a baby. he increased the cost of berth certificates. so people need to understand, you can say anything when you're running, and he does, and he will. but how did he govern? in massachusetts he has less than a 30% favorability rating. and president obama is winning by over 20 people. the people in massachusetts have seen how he will govern, are not happy w
. >> should the obama campaign be careful not to assume that voters will write romney off as this out-of-touch rich guy? >> he is very, very practiced. this is what i have said for the past couple of weeks. he gets into the debate prep room. he practices and practices. and the answer come across sounding extremely sincere. and the fact is i think that he is perhaps one of the betterer debaters in the republican party today. but when it comes to the facts, when it comes to what he...
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obama care, which is basically telling people you can't get kicked off for a pre-existing conditions, can you keep your kids on, in theory there will be subsidies coming for you to buy insurance, to me that's the biggest single leap forward in social insurance that we are likely to get, you know, in this decade or last decade or the one to come. >> peter. you get to close it out >> i think mr. romney really does have a plan. i think he looks a lot like reagan and much less like bush than mr. obama claims. his program for trade and energy development, i think he was spot on in the debates in that regard, and that could create somewhere between 5 million to 10 million jobs pretty easily, and so i think that if we got the romney plan on energy and trade and got the obama plan on social insurance, americans would be very, very happy. unfortunately, they are only going to get one of these guys, and so they are only going to get half a loaf. >> nice to see you all. have a great weekend, everybody. >> thanks. >> up next, a career reboot. >> i was happy that i received the offer, happy i got
obama care, which is basically telling people you can't get kicked off for a pre-existing conditions, can you keep your kids on, in theory there will be subsidies coming for you to buy insurance, to me that's the biggest single leap forward in social insurance that we are likely to get, you know, in this decade or last decade or the one to come. >> peter. you get to close it out >> i think mr. romney really does have a plan. i think he looks a lot like reagan and much less like bush...
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obama it is we day they are both completely disingenuous about this. the voucher plan will cost people seriously, as a move down the road in terms of services. at least as it is now formulated. there is no way we can continue to spend what we spend now on medicare without some serious challenges, not just tweaking. >> jonathan? >> romney says that the president will still $716 billion from medicare. is that accurate? >> it is in terms of what they're projecting over the years, reducing costs from medicare to make obamacare neutral. what he does not mention is paul ryan made the same projections for his original plan, but needed is right. both of these candidates are not being totally straight with the voters. president obama goes after romney and ryan in the way that the democrats always go after the gop when it comes to entitlements, but as we know, last summer, president obama was having to make changes to medicare in exchange to getting a grand bargain. if he is reelected, he will have to go back to the table, and i'm sure the same question will be
obama it is we day they are both completely disingenuous about this. the voucher plan will cost people seriously, as a move down the road in terms of services. at least as it is now formulated. there is no way we can continue to spend what we spend now on medicare without some serious challenges, not just tweaking. >> jonathan? >> romney says that the president will still $716 billion from medicare. is that accurate? >> it is in terms of what they're projecting over the years,...
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what about obama's smile? >> well he had a couple of real smiles when he won a couple of points, when he was talking about obama care and he smoothly went into the points. he gave real smiles. but most of the smiles were in irritation to things he thought romney were saying were absolutely ridiculous. like you have no idea how hard this job is was the smile he was giving romney. >> so eventually it ended. let's talk about the hugs and the hand shakes at the end. what did you see there? >> remember we talked about obama being in control at the beginning. that's the primacy effect. there's a recency effect that occurs at the end of the debate the last thing viewers remember. it was very interesting. romney didn't want to leave the stage. he kept staying. he wanted to be the last visual we had. he revelled in it. obama left. >> what about obama's body language at the end. did he seem to be hunched over a little bit? >> he did. >> very interesting. >> again, i do feel like he realized he didn't do well. and there
what about obama's smile? >> well he had a couple of real smiles when he won a couple of points, when he was talking about obama care and he smoothly went into the points. he gave real smiles. but most of the smiles were in irritation to things he thought romney were saying were absolutely ridiculous. like you have no idea how hard this job is was the smile he was giving romney. >> so eventually it ended. let's talk about the hugs and the hand shakes at the end. what did you see...
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care. he smoothly went into the points. he gave real smiles, but most of the smiles were in irritation to things he thought romney were saying that were absolutely ridiculous, like you have no idea how this job it was the smile he was giving romney. >> eventually it ended. >> yes. >> let's talk about the hugs and the handshakes at the end. what did you see there? >> yes. >> remember we talked about obama being in control in the beginning. that's the primacy effect and there's a recency effect at the end of the debate, the last thing a viewer remembers and it's very interesting. romney didn't want to leave the stage. kept staying and stretching it out. >> enjoying the moment. >> he wanted to be the last visual that we had of i won this debate. he just revelled in it and stayed and stayed and stayed, and obama left. >> what about obama's body language at the end though, did he seem -- he seemed to be sort of hunched over a little bit. >> he did. i thought that was very interesting. again, i d
care. he smoothly went into the points. he gave real smiles, but most of the smiles were in irritation to things he thought romney were saying that were absolutely ridiculous, like you have no idea how this job it was the smile he was giving romney. >> eventually it ended. >> yes. >> let's talk about the hugs and the handshakes at the end. what did you see there? >> yes. >> remember we talked about obama being in control in the beginning. that's the primacy effect...
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care. >> by the way, the next moderator is cnn state of the union anchor, candy crowly. >> as paul said, it is the much anticipated vice president debate. our coverage begins at 7:30 eastern time. >>> all right, who wouldn't want to fly like an eagle? when we get back, we'll give and bird's eye view of the world. ♪ atmix of energies.ve the world needs a broader that's why we're supplying natural gas to generate cleaner electricity... that has around 50% fewer co2 emissions than coal. and it's also why, with our partner in brazil, shell is producing ethanol - a biofuel made from renewable sugarcane. >>a minute, mom! let's broaden the world's energy mix. let's go. mike rowe here at a ford tell me fiona, who's having a big tire event? your ford dealer. who has 11 major brands to choose from? your ford dealer. who's offering a rebate? your ford dealer. who has the low price tire guarantee... affording peace of mind to anyone who might be in the market for a new set of res? your ford dealer. i'm beginning to sense a pattern. buy four select tires, get a $60 rebate. use the ford service cre
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that the economy, that health care, that a lot of there things mattered more. like in 201, a lot of things mattered a whole lot more than reverend wright. it's not going to move swing voters at all. >> also in a certain way it's a triumph of -- as much as i'm irritated by these sort of pockets of racialized discourse that emerge, i think there's -- there's something triumph not final, not now we're in a post-racial america but something triumph about the idea that this president in 2008 was able to suggest to the american people these other things matter more than any particular negative association you have around race. >> but remember how he did that. this is one of the things i think is too often forgotten. he did it by talking about race. the way he actually got out of the reverend wright problem that he had was he actually, in philadelphia, delivered a speech on race in america and said, we have to have this discussion. and one of the things that he demonstrated is that you can be the black leader who talks about race if you talk about it well. and i think
that the economy, that health care, that a lot of there things mattered more. like in 201, a lot of things mattered a whole lot more than reverend wright. it's not going to move swing voters at all. >> also in a certain way it's a triumph of -- as much as i'm irritated by these sort of pockets of racialized discourse that emerge, i think there's -- there's something triumph not final, not now we're in a post-racial america but something triumph about the idea that this president in 2008...